The rights of children : Of foolish secular English Judges and the wisdom of aetheist French homosexuals

“Sometimes  the role of  the intelligent man is simply  to point out  the obvious” –  George  Orwell

 

“Fools  rush  in where  wise men never  go and angels  fear to  tread”

Lord  Justice  Munby  and Mr. Justice Beaston  the  classic   folly  of  secularism in upholding  the ban  on Christian heterosexual couple Owen and Eunice John  because  the  Johns  would  not  tell  a  child  that  fisting, felching, rimming, farming  scat, watersports. anal penetration , chariot racing  etc  between Men who  have  Sex  with Men (MSM)  is  satisfactory  behaviour.  In contrast  to  the  folly  of  the  secular  English  justices  French atheist  homosexual   Xaxier Bongibault  recognizes  the  need  for children to  be brought up  by  heterosexuals

 

 

Xavier Bongibault, an atheist homosexual, is a prominent spokesman against the bill. “In France, marriage is not designed to protect the love between two people. French marriage is specifically designed to provide children with families,” he said in an interview. “[T]he most serious study done so far . . . demonstrates quite clearly that a child has trouble being raised by gay parents.”
 
Jean Marc, who has lived with a man for 20 years, insists, “The LGBT movement that speaks out in the media . . . They don’t speak for me. As a society we should not be encouraging this. It’s not biologically natural.”

 

http://www.speroforum.com/a/QSCKUUNMAB36/73492-French-homosexuals-campaign-against-samesex-marriage

French homosexuals campaign against same-sex marriage

Thursday, January 17, 2013

By Wendy Wright

Perhaps as many as a million people marched in Paris last Sunday and at French embassies around the world against proposed legislation that would legalize same-sex marriage in France.  One of the surprises in the French campaign for traditional marriage is that homosexuals have joined pro-family leaders and activists in the effort.

“The rights of children trump the right to children,” was the catchphrase of protesters like Jean Marc, a French mayor who is also homosexual.

 

Even though France is known for its laissez faire attitude toward sex, pro-family leaders were quick to organize huge numbers. When President Hollande announced his intentions to legalize homosexual marriage last November, a demonstration against the proposal gathered 100,000 protesters. And then what started as a debate about homosexual rights changed to one about a child’s right to a mother and a father, and the numbers in opposition exploded and has come to include unlikely allies. 

 

Xavier Bongibault, an atheist homosexual, is a prominent spokesman against the bill. “In France, marriage is not designed to protect the love between two people. French marriage is specifically designed to provide children with families,” he said in an interview. “[T]he most serious study done so far . . . demonstrates quite clearly that a child has trouble being raised by gay parents.”

 

Jean Marc, who has lived with a man for 20 years, insists, “The LGBT movement that speaks out in the media . . . They don’t speak for me. As a society we should not be encouraging this. It’s not biologically natural.”

 

Outraged by the bill, 66-year old Jean-Dominique Bunel, a specialist in humanitarian law who has done relief work in war-torn areas, told Le Figaro he “was raised by two women” and that he  “suffered from the lack of a father, a daily presence, a character and a properly masculine example, some counterweight to the relationship of my mother to her lover. I was aware of it at a very early age. I lived that absence of a father, experienced it, as an amputation.”

 

“As soon as I learned that the government was going to officialize marriage between two people of the same sex, I was thrown into disarray,” he explained. It would be “institutionalizing a situation that had scarred me considerably. In that there is an injustice that I can in no way allow.” If the women who raised him had been married, “I would have jumped into the fray and would have brought a complaint before the French state and before the European Court of Human Rights, for the violation of my right to a mom and a dad.”

 

A pro-family coalition that includes homosexuals is certainly different than in the United States and likely most places around the world. It is unclear why at least some French homosexuals would not only favor man-woman marriage only, but would campaign against homosexual marriage. It could be that France has allowed for civil unions, for all couples, for more than a decade. Whatever the reason, this potent coalition may stop homosexual marriage in France.

 

France’s National Assembly will take up the bill on January 29.

 

Wendy Wright writes for the Friday Fax of C-FAM.

 

 

 

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At : http://www.hardcell.org.uk/playroom17.htm  the  website  “Hard  Cell“  describe  the  homoerotic  practice  of scat  which  involves  playing  with or  eating  human faeces. Faeces  may  also  be  passed  (dumped)   on a  participant 

 ” Farming”  is taking faeces  from  public  toilets  to  play  with.

The  site  states  that  men may  be  drawn to scat  because  it  provokes  such negative  reaction.

It  describes  scat  as  possibly  the  ultimate  of  sex  without  inhibitions  evoking  warmth, degradation, issues  of  texture, colour, and  possibly  taste

Hard  Cell“  reports  that  “A 1993 survey of gay men in the UK found 1.5% of men said they’d done scat in the previous year, with 3% saying they’d tried it at least once in the past”.

Christian couple  Owen and  Eunice  Johns  were banned  from foster caring by  the Derby  Council  because  they  said they  could  not  tell a  5 to 8 year  old  that homosexuality  was  OK.   Lord Justice Munby and Mr Justice Beatson  upheld  the  ban in the  High  Court  decision  cited  below.

Foster parent ban: ‘this is a secular state’, say High Court judges

There is no place in British law for Christian beliefs, despite this country’s long history of religious observance and the traditions of the established Church, two High Court judges said. Here is part of their judgement.

Foster parent ban: 'this is a secular state', say High Court judges

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Eunice and Owen Johns outside the High Court. They said they held ‘normal, mainstream, Christian views’ Photo: JANE MINGAY

Foster parent ban: 'this is a secular state', say High Court judges

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Lord Justice Munby. Photo: UPPA

Foster parent ban: 'this is a secular state', say High Court judges

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Mr Justice Beatson. Photo: UPPA

By Lord Justice Munby and Mr Justice Beatson

7:00AM GMT 01 Mar 2011

“We cannot avoid the need to re-state what ought to be, but seemingly are not, well understood principles regulating the relationship of religion and law in our society.

We live in this country in a democratic and pluralistic society, in a secular state not a theocracy.

Although historically this country is part of the Christian West, and although it has an established church which is Christian, there have been enormous changes in the social and religious life of our country over the last century.

Our society is now pluralistic and largely secular. We sit as secular judges serving a multi-cultural community of many faiths. The laws and usages of the realm do not include Christianity, in whatever form.

The aphorism that “Christianity is part of the common law of England” is mere rhetoric.

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