“Sometimes the role of the intelligent man is simply to point out the obvious” – George Orwell
“Fools rush in where wise men never go and angels fear to tread”
Lord Justice Munby and Mr. Justice Beaston the classic folly of secularism in upholding the ban on Christian heterosexual couple Owen and Eunice John because the Johns would not tell a child that fisting, felching, rimming, farming scat, watersports. anal penetration , chariot racing etc between Men who have Sex with Men (MSM) is satisfactory behaviour. In contrast to the folly of the secular English justices French atheist homosexual Xaxier Bongibault recognizes the need for children to be brought up by heterosexuals
French homosexuals campaign against same-sex marriage
By Wendy Wright
Perhaps as many as a million people marched in Paris last Sunday and at French embassies around the world against proposed legislation that would legalize same-sex marriage in France. One of the surprises in the French campaign for traditional marriage is that homosexuals have joined pro-family leaders and activists in the effort.
“The rights of children trump the right to children,” was the catchphrase of protesters like Jean Marc, a French mayor who is also homosexual.
Even though France is known for its laissez faire attitude toward sex, pro-family leaders were quick to organize huge numbers. When President Hollande announced his intentions to legalize homosexual marriage last November, a demonstration against the proposal gathered 100,000 protesters. And then what started as a debate about homosexual rights changed to one about a child’s right to a mother and a father, and the numbers in opposition exploded and has come to include unlikely allies.
Xavier Bongibault, an atheist homosexual, is a prominent spokesman against the bill. “In France, marriage is not designed to protect the love between two people. French marriage is specifically designed to provide children with families,” he said in an interview. “[T]he most serious study done so far . . . demonstrates quite clearly that a child has trouble being raised by gay parents.”
Jean Marc, who has lived with a man for 20 years, insists, “The LGBT movement that speaks out in the media . . . They don’t speak for me. As a society we should not be encouraging this. It’s not biologically natural.”
Outraged by the bill, 66-year old Jean-Dominique Bunel, a specialist in humanitarian law who has done relief work in war-torn areas, told Le Figaro he “was raised by two women” and that he “suffered from the lack of a father, a daily presence, a character and a properly masculine example, some counterweight to the relationship of my mother to her lover. I was aware of it at a very early age. I lived that absence of a father, experienced it, as an amputation.”
“As soon as I learned that the government was going to officialize marriage between two people of the same sex, I was thrown into disarray,” he explained. It would be “institutionalizing a situation that had scarred me considerably. In that there is an injustice that I can in no way allow.” If the women who raised him had been married, “I would have jumped into the fray and would have brought a complaint before the French state and before the European Court of Human Rights, for the violation of my right to a mom and a dad.”
A pro-family coalition that includes homosexuals is certainly different than in the United States and likely most places around the world. It is unclear why at least some French homosexuals would not only favor man-woman marriage only, but would campaign against homosexual marriage. It could be that France has allowed for civil unions, for all couples, for more than a decade. Whatever the reason, this potent coalition may stop homosexual marriage in France.
France’s National Assembly will take up the bill on January 29.
At : http://www.hardcell.org.uk/playroom17.htm the website “Hard Cell“ describe the homoerotic practice of scat which involves playing with or eating human faeces. Faeces may also be passed (dumped) on a participant
” Farming” is taking faeces from public toilets to play with.
The site states that men may be drawn to scat because it provokes such negative reaction.
It describes scat as possibly the ultimate of sex without inhibitions evoking warmth, degradation, issues of texture, colour, and possibly taste
“Hard Cell“ reports that “A 1993 survey of gay men in the UK found 1.5% of men said they’d done scat in the previous year, with 3% saying they’d tried it at least once in the past”.
Christian couple Owen and Eunice Johns were banned from foster caring by the Derby Council because they said they could not tell a 5 to 8 year old that homosexuality was OK. Lord Justice Munby and Mr Justice Beatson upheld the ban in the High Court decision cited below.
Foster parent ban: ‘this is a secular state’, say High Court judges
There is no place in British law for Christian beliefs, despite this country’s long history of religious observance and the traditions of the established Church, two High Court judges said. Here is part of their judgement.
By Lord Justice Munby and Mr Justice Beatson
7:00AM GMT 01 Mar 2011
“We cannot avoid the need to re-state what ought to be, but seemingly are not, well understood principles regulating the relationship of religion and law in our society.
We live in this country in a democratic and pluralistic society, in a secular state not a theocracy.
Although historically this country is part of the Christian West, and although it has an established church which is Christian, there have been enormous changes in the social and religious life of our country over the last century.
Our society is now pluralistic and largely secular. We sit as secular judges serving a multi-cultural community of many faiths. The laws and usages of the realm do not include Christianity, in whatever form.
The aphorism that “Christianity is part of the common law of England” is mere rhetoric.