This Blog is gently trying to direct functional atheists into more coherent behaviour i.e that functional atheists leave the christian church and go where they belong – to atheist / secular groups.
Functional atheists are individuals who claim to be “christian” but accept homosexuality as normal.
They are functional atheists because their philosophical position is consistent with atheism which denies “design with intent and for purpose” in the universe.
The atheist position on homosexuality is logically coherent but wrong in that the atheist first premise (axiom) – that there is no God – is wrong.
In atheism there is no God therefore no intellect or mind existed before matter , made matter or placed design in matter with intent and for purpose.
For atheists matter is the first cause ; mind came from matter and matter does not pursue any particular purpose or objective.
Matter simply responds to chance and the laws of physics and chemistry.
In the atheistic philosophical framework there can be no absolute morality and everything is permissible since human desire and reason alone determine morality
Christian theists on the other hand hold that an all – wise , all powerful being (GOD) is the first cause.
Matter was made by God and He imposed design on it from its initial chaotic state “with intent and for purpose”.
In the christian theistic philosophical framework there is right and wrong – determined by God , His character , His purpose and His intent.
Right action and thought conform to the character , purpose and intent of God. Action and thought which do not conform are morally wrong and everything is not permissible.
Someone who claims to be a christian theist i.e claims to believe that God made the universe, and and claims to speak for God in support of homosexuality , as functional atheists do , imply that the designer of the universe ( GOD ) is utterly incoherent or mad or both for a god who embraces homosexuality must also reject the concept of “design with intent and for purpose”.
Functional atheists are therefore totally incoherent ( as christian theists ) in addition to being completely un-biblical .
Functional atheists are entitled to their opinion but not from a place of incoherence.
Functional atheists belong to and should speak from a place of coherence – from secular / atheist groups.
Of course they will not leave the church and join these groups for their role is to function as 5th columnists which allows LGBT activists to claim that some “christians” support homosexuality.
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Gay marriage ‘patience’ urged by Archbishop of Wales
Dr Barry Morgan told the church’s governing body in Llandudno that there was no single Christian viewpoint on issues such as same-sex relationships.
He warned of the dangers of the church being seen as homophobic, but called for discussions to be “charitable”.
Gay marriage became legal in March, but is not yet allowed in church.
After MPs passed the bill to legalise gay marriage in England and Wales, albeit not in church, the Church in Wales ordered a report into same-sex relationships.
The Archbishop has previously said he was surprised that the Church in Wales had not been consulted about the religious restrictions, saying it should have the freedom to make its own decision.
‘Evolved and changed’
And speaking to the governing body on Wednesday, he stressed that Christian teaching did not always offer simple or definitive answers on issues such as same-sex relationships or assisted dying.
“We often see what we want to see,” Dr Morgan said.
“We often use Scripture to reinforce viewpoints that we have already arrived at in other ways and for other reasons.
Dr Barry Morgan Archbishop of Wales
“Some people have changed their minds for example on women’s ministry and same-sex relationships when they have experienced the ministry of a woman priest in the one case, or discovered their own son or daughter to be gay in the other.”
The Archbishop pointed out that the church’s view on remarriage of divorced people had also “evolved and changed” after it had first been legalised by the state.
He asked: “Will we, as a Church, eventually adopt the same approach as far as same-sex relationships are concerned, as we have done about re-marriage after divorce, or is gay marriage in a different category from the re-marriage of divorced people? Whatever our viewpoints, I hope that our discussions can be charitable.”
Dr Morgan urged clergy keen to publicly bless same-sex marriage to be patient.
“Much as some people may want to do so, the rule is the same as was the case over the re-marriage of divorced people – we need to wait for the Church, as a whole, to decide the matter – and we are beginning that process at this governing body.”
Members will consider reports on same-sex marriage and assisted dying during the two-day meeting but will not be asked to decide the church’s view on either issue.
There will also be discussions about the guidelines on the ordaining of women as bishops, which will be allowed in Wales from September.